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EPtalk by Dr. Jayne 5/11/23

May 11, 2023 Dr. Jayne 3 Comments

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I’ve been in Wisconsin this week attending the first week of Epic’s annual XGM, or Xpert Group Meeting. Although there’s always a lot of chatter about the fabled User Group Meeting in late summer, I hadn’t heard of XGM until a couple of years ago. I’ve spent the majority of my clinical informatics career working with other EHR platforms (McKesson Horizon, anyone?) and had only interacted with Epic in an end-user capacity previously, but this has been my favorite of the Epic conferences so far. XGM is split across two weeks.

This week seemed more clinical in nature, with the more technical sessions following next week.  Although I’m confident that I could learn plenty at either, this is the one that worked best with my schedule, and it’s been jam-packed. Unlike some of my experiences at HIMSS, I’ve been surrounded by thought-provoking presentations that have a lot of applicability to my ongoing work, and I’ve met lots of people who are beyond energized about working in the industry. 

Some random thoughts. Epic requires you to attest to being fully vaccinated as a condition of registering for the conference. For those of us who came home from HIMSS with the plague, I appreciate it. I’ve seen a number of people who are wearing masks, including plenty of staffers. It seems prudent when you are interacting with large numbers of people, because there are plenty of circulating viruses other than COVID that I wouldn’t want to bring home to my family, and interacting with a couple of thousand people from across the country and around the world is a risk factor. I saw a couple of N-95 masks on people’s elbows or clipped to their backpacks, which isn’t doing anyone much good, but there were quite a few being worn properly as well. Distancing was possible in most of the sessions, and although mealtimes were busy, there was the option to take a carry-out box outside except for the day when it was raining.

The sessions that have been the most packed include those on clinical decision support and Epic’s Cosmos database, which includes de-identified data from millions of patients. Telehealth sessions were also popular, as were those on optimizing clinical alerts. It feels like a lot of attendees are serious about making sure that their technology investments are generating value for clinicians and making sure that patients are being included as beneficiaries of those efforts as well as clinicians and other end users.

As far as the sessions themselves, the Epic moderators run a pretty tight ship, keeping sessions on time. They’re also good at making sure that audience members who are asking questions remember to use a microphone so that the session recordings include all the questions. Of course, there are still some people who don’t want to wait for a microphone and jump right in, but the presenters were good at addressing those, too. As with any conference, there are always audience members who confuse the Q&A portion with their own personal story time, but it seemed less than what I have encountered recently at other conferences I’ve attended.

Even the “attendees behaving badly” weren’t that bad, although I was ready to throttle the person I’ll call “crinkly bag guy” who seemed to have everything in his messenger bag double-shrouded in cellophane, resulting in a tremendous amount of noise every time he looked for something, which was often during the 40 minutes we were together. His nearest neighbor even shushed him librarian-style. There was also the guy who spilled coffee on the bus (and also on himself) because he put his partially full coffee cup in the side pocket of his backpack.

Generally, though, everyone was pleasant and patient with any lines or crowded situations, which made the entire meeting feel smooth. The weather was fantastic Tuesday and Wednesday and I was able to get out and stroll the campus and have some random interactions with other attendees who were doing the same thing. The continued campus construction was a common topic, as was the legendary Epic culinary department. Highlights of the menu included the spinach-asiago breakfast tart as well as a chocolate cake that was enrobed in a delightfully crispy coating.

A couple of presenters got into the ChatGPT spirit, with one using the tool to write the introduction to his presentation and another asking it to detail some thoughts about the future of patient experience. I took what felt like a million pages of notes, trying to capture every useful thing I heard. Many of the client presentations dealt with issues that are common no matter what EHR platform you use, and I’m surprised that they’re still being discussed. This includes such advice as “put the things you want used most often at the top of a menu and the things you want used least at the bottom of the menu” which can make a huge difference for providers being able to order common tests as efficiently as possible. It can also make a difference when you’re trying to steer patient behavior, such as encouraging them to use a refill request workflow or an appointment scheduling workflow rather than just defaulting everything to a message to their primary care physician.

Reducing the continued increased in post-pandemic patient portal messages was a common theme, with several clients sharing their strategies as well as Epic giving information on its features to support their efforts.

Speaking of features, one non-technical feature that I’ve only seen at Epic conferences is the inclusion of local and regional businesses for attendees to shop in between sessions. Several Wisconsin-based businesses were featured, including one that had handmade soap and gift items, gift boxes, everything badger-themed, and local snacks. There were also chocolatiers and creameries selling a variety of cheese, snacks, honey, sweet and savory pecans, truffles, and more. This is on top of the Epic shop, where attendees could pick up themed t-shirts, notebooks, jackets, water bottles, and other items that are offered at cost. The conference also knocked it out of the park from a sustainability standpoint by having dedicated recycling and trash bins everywhere you turned, but also by including recycling instructions on the standard slides that played in the meeting rooms between sessions.

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The Epic campus is known for its quirky art. The piece that gave me the most delight on this trip was this planter that appeared to have microscopes mounted on it. Instead, the eyepiece revealed a kaleidoscopic view of the plants that changed as the planter was spun, reminding the viewer that what you see is not always exactly as others see it. This will be important to remember as I bring back a virtual treasure trove of presentations of cool things that work at other institutions but might not work at my own or might be beyond what my own users are ready to experience at the moment. I met some new people who will be great to bounce ideas off of down the road as well as some who can commiserate with the challenges I run into on a regular basis.

I’m sad that I’ll miss the second week but trust that my team will bring back lots of other ideas.

What’s the best idea you’ve picked up at a conference in the last year? Leave a message or email me.

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Currently there are "3 comments" on this Article:

  1. Good to hear that the Chinese bondholders money is trickling down to local artisans in Wisconsin…..

  2. …I, uh, never knew those were functioning kaleidoscopes in those planters. It’s only been …years.

  3. XGM is much newer than UGM, so you weren’t overlooking it for very long. The volume of UGM attendees was putting a lot of stress on the Madison hospitality infrastructure and it was getting difficult to get all of the content being submitted by customers and that Epic wanted to present into one week. Epic split the non-C-suite/director topics into XGM ~10 years ago to focus on more tactical and executable topics while keeping some of the higher level and strategic content for UGM.







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